My first board :) ***finished** well.. 1step left

[AGriff]

heyup thought id post my little weekend of fun trying to make myself a board
the lovely blank which you guys recomended

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my little shed (thought id go all out and make myself a stand)

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not so nice glassing stand (matt from quicksilver pro hossegor tent xD)

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[AGriff]

continued...

so i made a template (the dog eat the nose )

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the beast pretty much ready to be glassed

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[AGriff]

and again...

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so then i glassed the bottom (yea.. i messed up the fin placement first time)

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[AGriff]

...
overlap went a bit wrong lol

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and the spray job im going for!

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ill post the next pic after the hotcoat spray n fin plugs etc
or probs just after the glosscoat
any tips would be great!

[ATTMFKH]

Nice one mate - what size was the blank & how much did it cost yer delivered ?

[AGriff]

errrm blank was £65 in total. £10 postage and 5 for packing materials (which was two pieces of cardboard wtf)
so blank on its own was 50
blank was 6'4'' x 21'' i think
the board is now 6' x 2 1/4 x 19 1/5

[ATTMFKH]

Just sold some shares in RBS that me & mate bought for 12p so got a bit of dough for some toys.............. Question is do I make a dog that's unrideable but great fun to make & my next will be alright....or do I get Royal to make me one of his DVS stylee Quad Fish flying machines

What's the story on the Bill of Materials - what do you reckon your total build cost will be or what have you blown already - not including planers, masks etc......

Cheers & good luck with your laps

[finlay]

have you got a place to shape? i've got all my shaping and glassing stuff in glasgow right now, could give you some pointers/lend of the tools if you want to give it a try?

[ATTMFKH]

Alright Finlay - still getting amped from Cold Rush

I've got an old byre in my garden , plenty big , but it has a metal roof = cold + condensation, which I don't think would be the best environment to do glassing.......

Happy enough to mow foam I think, and get the shape I want except the concaves, rails & rocker

Have you got somewhere to shape / glass ? I could build a lean-to onto my log store but again not sure about temperature side of things - would expect you need a fairly warm , dry environment for resin to go off / cure properly. Your welcome to come down to mine but I'm sure it ain't ideal.

If I buy a blank Finlay I'll give you a shout mate if I get stuck or if I struggle on what tools required etc.

Cheers

[AGriff]

ah cool, mate just go for it! before i did this i had never even used a planer of any sort or even seen a board blank haha

right well materials are good for me as i have mates that work for a boat yard that makes these super yachts. and my dads in the navy so free prepreg (next board ).
so i can get top of the range resin for £2.50 a kilo, but that dries almondy colour (but this stuff is so strong! easily twice as strong as standard board isothylic resin). but for whatever resin you us you also need this wax stuff which makes the surface of the resin hard and sandable which you use with the hot coat and gloss coat, and of course you need catalyst (i got the wax stuff and cat free)

to make the board it cost me.

£65- blank
£12- 5m of 4oz twill weave fibreglass cloth
£1- 100 latex gloves
£2- latex squeegee
£2- 5kilos of asetone
£9- 4'' super soft brush (for gloss coat so it leaves no brush marks)
£1- masking tape
£10- all the fin plugs
£1.50- leash plus
£2- white pigment
£5- fine cut saw
£7.50 3kilos of resin

£118 total (but you only need to buy most of that once)

other the tools i used

-little £15 heater for my shed (i keep it at about 20degree C) do the glassing outside so it takes ages to set so plenty of time to work with, then bring inside to go hard. (dont point heater at board, as resin goes soft and shit at about only 100 deg Farenheit)
-80+120 grit sand paper
-wood sanding block with foam between the sandpaper and block
-electric planer
-finger planer
-round spongey sanding pad for my drill
-i made some board thickness callipers
-with some clear acrylic i made board measuring this so i can mease the stringer to rail distance on both sides at the same time.

thats it.

my stage by stage process.

-cut the out line of the board first

-get the concave on the bottom how you want it

-get a bit of wood the length of the board and use a spirit level to make sure its well... level. then mease down from it to the nose and tail and mark the rocker and tail kick you want.

- cut down to these marks and smooth of bottom so water flows nicely

- now dont touch the bottom again

-get the rough finish and shape on the top you want

-get your callipers and and keep measuring and evenly taking material off till you get the thickness you want

-do ya rails

-measure all parts of the board to make sure its all symetrical and right!

- use the small planer to make the stringer level with the rest of the foam ( only go 'downhill' with the planer or it gets stuck, so on the deck, go nose to middle, and tail to middle, and on the hull go middle to nose and middle to tail)

-do a final sand to get rid of hand grease and such (resin hates hand grease)

- mark your fins using the tool i described so the outer fins are in the right spot (just use measurements from your fav board or just whatever you want)

i think thats all, so your ready to glass.

3 stages in glassing, lamite the cloth on (1 layer bottom, 2 top) using squeegeeeeeeee. leave to dry (it will stay slightly tacky)

tap of half way round rails leaving the tape sor of hanging (so you dont get resing drip marks around the board)
use a mix of resin catalyst and that wax stuff (same amount of wax to catalyst)
brush on evenly with big brush to get in all the lil nooks and crannys
peel off tape when the resin starts to gell
leave to dry and then repeat for other side (try and match tape lines)

once hard and dry, sand off all smooth (do NOT go mad and hit the cloth... thats bad!)

drill your holes for fin plugs and leash plug and fit them (ask how if u want)

tape off again like for hot coat bit cover the the fin plugs and leash plug with tape
use the same resin mix as for hotcoat and brush over all nice and smooth (dont brush too much so the resin has time to settle smooth whilst its still really liquidy)
peel off tape at gelling point again, let it go hard and repeat for other side.

your done.... leave the board to cure somehwere warm like ur house. when it stops smelling completely its pretty much cured (depending on resin +temp it takes like 6 days)

[roberdy]

you make it sound so fricken easy!

[jimo69]

stellar effort for #1. good fun innit

[ATTMFKH]

Nice one Griffster ............ I was good up to the tape on the rails bit

[mealy]

you make it sound so fricken easy!

there aint no white magic involved with making surfboards, with each board you make you learn a little more.
my advice to anyone who has the room is just to go for it!

this is the 5th one I've made and probably the best board I have ever surfed.
5'10" x 19 1/4 x 2 1/2

[shackattack2]

Great lookin board Mealy. Looks similar to one I nearly picked up in Indo. Are they carbon fibre rails?

Been riding my first board pretty much exclusively. Haven't taken the time to adjust to the other ones I've made, but I still feel the urge to make more

Lookin good aGriff

[jimo69]

you make it sound so fricken easy!

there aint no white magic involved with making surfboards,

amen to that.

[royal]

so i can get top of the range resin for £2.50 a kilo, but that dries almondy colour (but this stuff is so strong! easily twice as strong as standard board isothylic resin).

that isn't crystic 491pa is it...?

like your board, and look forward to more!

[mealy]

Great lookin board Mealy. Looks similar to one I nearly picked up in Indo. Are they carbon fibre rails?

Nah mate just a splash of acrylic paint.

[jimo69]

so i can get top of the range resin for £2.50 a kilo, but that dries almondy colour (but this stuff is so strong! easily twice as strong as standard board isothylic resin).

that isn't crystic 491pa is it...?

like your board, and look forward to more!

whats the deal with crystic royal?

any good or a no go..

[royal]

crystic is a bit of a pain to work with, goes a light amber color when catalyzed, a bit darker when cured, and isn't as cosmetic as sylmar and its copies.

bonus is the tensile strength, elongation to break, and thermal resistance. I love the stuff. My 5'8" incut has hardly a ding after months of serious abuse...and it is all 4oz...

I can't comment on the price, as for me it is only slightly cheaper than Silmar oop noorth...

[AGriff]

so i can get top of the range resin for £2.50 a kilo, but that dries almondy colour (but this stuff is so strong! easily twice as strong as standard board isothylic resin).

that isn't crystic 491pa is it...?

like your board, and look forward to more!

spot on!
good guess or do i know you? lol
where did you get yours from? theres only one place in my whole county that has it lol
i decided to use it so i could use just 4oz all over. nice and light
next board im going to get normal clear setting resin if you can recomend any?
a local said that seabase's iso 7x is good... every used that?

[royal]

i get all my resin - both crystic and sylmar- from East Coast Fiberglass in South Shields. They have cloth as well, but I've never tried it.

Super nice guys, and they'll get stuff in if you agree to buy it, lol...

[ATTMFKH]

What's with this £12.50 malarky for cardboard packaging for the blanks - fucking rip-off. Been slavering over the USBlanks catalogue for the last hour

[mealy]

What's with this £12.50 malarky for cardboard packaging for the blanks - fucking rip-off. Been slavering over the USBlanks catalogue for the last hour

Would probably be a little cheaper getting two blanks from TriOcean, still £22.50 for postage but the blanks are a little cheaper and I've found them easier to work with aswell.
http://www.trioceansurf.co.uk/on-line-s ... rd-blanks/

[AGriff]

yea might go for one of them next, may aswel give them both a try
heres the board with the hotcoat sanded
and some masking tape to mark off the spray, isnt fully masked i just thought it looked well cool like this haha

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green done

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[mealy]

Looks such a good attempt for your 1st board. Very impressed.
Just curious why you want to gloss it though, looks a very performance orientated board.
Keep the updates coming.

[AGriff]

Looks such a good attempt for your 1st board. Very impressed.
Just curious why you want to gloss it though, looks a very performance orientated board.
Keep the updates coming.

na im not glossing it, everyone just seems to call the final coat, the gloss coat.
im just going to do a wax in styreme mix same as the hotcoat, but sand it 240-600 then t-cut it. wont be gloss, just smooth.
without a layer on the spray the wax will probs take the spray off.
and thanks man
i just learnt why i have yellowy green patches... dont use cheap latex gloves!!

[AGriff]

spray done

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i messed up a little bit as a bit of the black got on the green, as my towel fell off the rest of the board, i need so acetone and respray the end of the green bits.
still pretty cool tho
im chuffed

[ATTMFKH]

Great effort mate for your first board .............. let us know how it goes in the salty stuff

[AGriff]

sure will! cant actually wait to use it!, just fitted the leash and fin plugs today, gloss coat tomoz, then surf the mother!
yahooooooooooooooo