Artificial Waves

[nicktb]

I am new to this site and not a surfer but have planning consent for a 100 metre long surf wave that is 2 metres high.
We have an existing 5 star self catering holiday resort just off the Atlantic Highway between Fistral and Watergate in North Cornwall.
We will be building a surfer village with 200 suites and 100 houses. We hope to sell some of the suites that all have balconies overlooking the wave as fractional ownership so a week with guranteed surfing every year for ever will cost less than £20k. I would be glad of any feedback on surf wave technology or the demand for this type of resort.

[DJ1]

are you talking about a wave pool or a artificial reef?

[J L]

I am new to this site and not a surfer but have planning consent for a 100 metre long surf wave that is 2 metres high.
We have an existing 5 star self catering holiday resort just off the Atlantic Highway between Fistral and Watergate in North Cornwall.
We will be building a surfer village with 200 suites and 100 houses. We hope to sell some of the suites that all have balconies overlooking the wave as fractional ownership so a week with guranteed surfing every year for ever will cost less than £20k. I would be glad of any feedback on surf wave technology or the demand for this type of resort.

Oh please, it will just be an over priced resort for weekend warriors down from the city to play at surfing, if you have investors wanting to build houses why not build some nice affordable housing for locals instead of bringing in 100's of fuck whits from London in there range rovers and BMW's.

an artificial wave is not needed, the Atlantic is merely meters away it produces 100's of surfable days a year for everyone to use not just the privileged or rich.

[roberdy]

^^ x10 ^^

Bloody short-sighted money grabbing developers, trying to hype something that would be destroyed by the first decent force 9 that comes along. You might as well be trying to sell iPhones on here!

[lostboy]

By 'fractional ownership' do you mean a Timeshare?

So for £20k you get one week to stay in an apartment that's used by a whole bunch of other people? No thanks. Can you imagine the mad scramble to all book the same week when the forecast is looking good?

Let's say I had a momentary lapse of reason and purchased one of these timeshares. If I was then burdened with the cursed thing for another 20 years then it'd work out at a grand for a week per year in an overcrowded surf resort that seems to get worse every year. For that price I could go to Indo for a month or so for the rest of my life and be guaranteed cranking waves, warm water, and cheap hookers.

Last I heard it was about £300 quid to buy a caravan at Watergate caravan park. Bit cheaper than £20k and there's a path straight down to the beach.

[Poo Stance]

so a week with guranteed surfing every year for ever

Will this be in the small print?

[nicktb]

did not explain myself very well!
It is not an artifical reef but an inland surf wave giving a 100m ride 2 m high every 20 seconds.
I know lots of people who live locally can grab the water when it is good waves but for the rest of the world they have to book in advance and if they come down when the surf is inapropriate for their standard then theyt have a lousy week.
You would get about 5 weeks for your £20k in perpituity.
Cornwall pretty much relies on tourism for its economic survival.
Hope that answers the questions.

[Chris F]

Surely if it's an inland surf wave it would be more use building it in Hertfordshire or Milton Keynes or something.

[Schizo]

it would be rammed if the sea was flat and empty if there were real waves - ooop north would be a better bet on the east coast

[Poo Stance]

Is it going to be exclusive to the people staying there or will there be one day access too?

If it thins the crowds it's got to be a good thing? Or maybe more people will take up surfing and venture out into the ocean and crowding will get worse? Then they'd all rip and I get even less waves

Can you change the shape of the wave or will it be a 100m mushburger/closeout? And how it the wave created?

Not that I'm interested or had the ka-ching if I was.

[DJ1]

not sure how well this would work, the wave pool in Miyazaki, Japan was right next to some of the best surf in the country and shut down, I presume because people preferred the real thing...

[roberdy]

it would be rammed if the sea was flat and empty if there were real waves - ooop north would be a better bet on the east coast

Yeah, really up north and really on the east coast, like Aberdeen, we have a real need up here and the area is beautiful so the visitors wuld have other things to do, and you have all the oil money locally to buy your fractionally owned flats, a brill idea mate. If the area is good enough for Donald Trump it should be good enough for anyone, oh and the local councils blew so much money on icelandic banks they are VERY open to wild and fancful money making schemes.

Bring it on.

[Mirky_Splatt]

FAIL.

[Neil_Wales]

We could do with a wave pool in Cardiff if you fancy building one here!!

[Ross]

did not explain myself very well!
It is not an artifical reef but an inland surf wave giving a 100m ride 2 m high every 20 seconds.

Have you seriously thought this through, how many weekend warriors or time share surfers are going to be able to ride a 2m high wave in the first place..your goona need some pretty good insurance for that.

Like its been said already, if your goin to build an inland wave why not actually put it somewhere that is really inland and away from the beach, just makes more sence to me. .

[Barneyrubble]

2m wave for newbies

[Tombo]

Cornwall pretty much relies on tourism for its economic survival.

Yes, but how is building a "surfers village" resort going to benefit us locals? I dont see how this will generate any significant local jobs or money for the local economy. Whether there is surf or not, Newquay will still continue to pull in hordes of tourists happy to spend their money in locally owned hotels and shops. The last thing we need is a resort where the vast maority of income wont stay in the county. Instead of all these "surf pods" and luxury flats for weekenders from the cities. Me, like a lot of other youngsters in Cornwall are already facing the prospect of having to leave the county to find housing once we graduate from Uni.

To be perfectly honest im not sure that its a very profitable idea anyway. It seems fairly expensive and for me personally part of the joy of surfing is being in the ocean and gaining enjoyment from sharing the power of the Earth (sorry to come across spiritual!!). An inland artificial wave in Newquay just seems wrong.

[Stance_On]

Nah, I reckon you'd only get surfers to pay up 20K if you ruined the natural surf first, and the energy costs for an artificial wave are monstrous and lets not even think about the carbon footprint!!!!

What you'd need to do first is to site a massive wave energy scheme somewhere up-fetch of Newquay (say for example Hayle) so you could extract the energy from the natural waves and use it to power your inland wave. Imagine if you could trick the local council into supporting you and use government money to crap up the natural surf in the name of "renewable energy" only to pour gigawatts down your inland wave generator!!!

But that would never happen...

[hangingjudge]

2m waves is a serious bit of water moving. I doubt that that is anything more than a hook to get investors. no one world wide has a pool that produces that size wave .
check out what the genius's did at surfparks and be dismayed at your chances of getting 2m waves in a pool. ABout the same as cold fusion in your kitchen sink!
hype -dont you like it? as developers do -think of a project and them work out who is going to pay for it, Forget basic surfers as your funding !

[hangingjudge]

2m waves is a serious bit of water moving. I doubt that that is anything more than a hook to get investors. no one world wide has a pool that produces that size wave .
check out what the genius's did at surfparks and be dismayed at your chances of getting 2m waves in a pool. ABout the same as cold fusion in your kitchen sink!
hype -dont you like it? as developers do -think of a project and them work out who is going to pay for it, Forget basic surfers as your funding !