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Clive Symm's photo of Praa Sands

Average rating of 3.97 from 71 votes

Praa Sands

Spot Location: UK + Ireland > England > Praa Sands

Date Taken: 25th November 2009. 10880 page views since 13th September 2010.

Swell Rating Primary Swell Secondary Swell Wind (+ Gusts) Weather
16.5ft 12s 252.25°     33
mph
Brief Showers 53°f
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brayer Sep 18, 2010 Rating: 2

what's the matter doapoodandgamble pissed you off.Everyone knows where this is just by the scenery, so get off your high horse and get a life. There are no secret spots here in cornwall, well nothing worth keeping secret as cornwall ain't big enough. I can't believe that guys get so shitty about a fucking break. I've lived here all my life and surfed here for 25 years, don't mind the traveeling surfer so grow up spunkbag and move on !

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DoAPooAndGambole Sep 30, 2010 Rating: 1

i dunno what's been said since i left my comment (it seems to have been deleted!), i just remember reacting to some guy berating others for revealing spots on some photos, whilst himself revealing spots on other photos! My words didn't necessarily commit myself to any side of this debate. I'm sorry MSW, for calling a fellow surfer a cocknob. I should have merely pointed out that his views contradicted his own behaviour.

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Dicer Sep 20, 2010 Rating: 0

I agree with you in that most sercrets aren't secrets brayer but even you have marked one of your photos from here under "sennen" and had the presence of mind to hide the rocks in the background. Surely it's better for visitors to find these spots themselves rather than broadcast it to the nation but that's my opinion. I lived here all me life too and don't have a problem seeing new faces as long as they're happy to wait their turn.

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tjo Sep 19, 2010 Rating: 1

If you wake up tomorrow to find your local 70-100 people deep, you might change your tune. But hey, that's not likely to happen, I mean, unless you were stupid enough to blab about it on an international forum.... Just sayin'

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Nick Hawling Sep 18, 2010 Rating: 1

TRUE.

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Coelacanth Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 0

Ben's explanation makes things clearer for me now. Thanks Ben. Jacatero also pointed out how more voting/numbers of votes on all pics, good or not so good, minimizes the ability of an ever present group of spitefully motivated voters(pro photogs?...say it ain't so!), who ALWAYS vote 1's(to give their own pics a better chance at front page status!), to skew the voting and keep many good pics off the front page. Good pics usually get lots of views...but relatively few votes...Not many of us are that motivated to ACTUALLY vote...unless there are some bodacious female charms to stare at/drool over. Or unless it's an exceptionally good and/or unique surf pic. Maybe more voting on ALL pics could be encouraged by that old reliable motivator of human behavior...self-interest! Have a random drawing for (a) prize(s); wetsuit, surfboard, sponge(eewwww), whatever...for weeders who cast a certain threshold number of votes on pics(on the browse/new pics page maybe?)within a certain time frame...and make sure they're NOT all 1 votes either.

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DIGITAL WAVE Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 0

Nice pic - some amazing colours

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flippyflop Sep 17, 2010 Rating: -11

MMMMM Porthcurno, wicked wedge at high tide.

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flippyflop Sep 18, 2010 Rating: -1

Protect your own and screw everyone else over!

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DoAPooAndGambole Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 3

ive followed your previous comments you prick. Youve named a few spots in a couple and one comment was you complaining about people putting up pictures of spots. You complete cocknob.

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brayer Sep 16, 2010 Rating: -7

ourpnhtocr - anagram of the spot. super heavy wave when the rest of the south coast is huge and blown. And no it ain't a secret spot.......

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Stimpson J Cat Sep 16, 2010 Rating: 6

A Risky Carbide. That, in case you didn't guess, is an anagram of Brayer is a Dick. It my not be a secret but please spare us the GPS co-ordinates ;)

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Shorey Sep 16, 2010 Rating: 1

Looks a little like Waimea, looks heaps of fun too

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Dicer Sep 16, 2010 Rating: 3

the shorey is heavy enough at 4ft so this must have been mahoosif, nice shot Clive!

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Clive Symm Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 3

Sorry, someone, Huey I think, posted a comment that said "Very theatrical ;)" and I accidentally deleted it instead of giving it a +1, dodgy mouse...

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Hughy Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 1

No worries Clive, lovely pic.

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Hughy Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 0

Very theatrical ;)

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Nick Hawling Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 2

is this as right down the other end of praa furthest away from the cafe.? Privet message me :)

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Nick Hawling Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 1

I will find it tomorrow :) thanks

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Clive Symm Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 2

Sorry Nick, it's not Praa but somewhere close.

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Merici Sports CIC Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 2

One of my favourite spots in the World, and this a GREAT shot of it!!! 5+

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soutie Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 2

why is there no one out?

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Coelacanth Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 0

I think you're onto something there Clive! If there was some time interval during which a certain cumulative threshold number of 1 votes(and 2's, 3's, etc.?...tmi?) was reached...and it was tallied at the bottom of a profile page along with the rest where MSW admin. could see it readily...that might curb the chronic pic voting abuse a bit. I'd like to see something similar to weed out the troll(s) behind the mass negging of comments that has been going on (again?) recently.

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Hteik Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 1

Great Shot mate.....I'd like to know who gave this a 1, just so i could view the images they have uploaded and score them accordingly.

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Slab Nov 4, 2010 Rating: 1

Sycophants! Did it ever cross your minds that people may have reason to vote down some pictures. Maybe they don't like to see pictures of thier favorite break splashed across the front page of a shite but seeming popular website? It's a 1 from me.

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Spongerdudette Sep 22, 2010 Rating: 1

Has each of their bum cheeks been named there Coelocanth? ;p

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Coelacanth Sep 22, 2010 Rating: 1

Their names are Maria, Theresa, Isabella and Raoul...if that helps.

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Spongerdudette Sep 21, 2010 Rating: -1

I would tell ya Portpipe, but I reckon that a lot of guys on here have got it saved to fav or knows exactly where to look.....

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Portpipe Sep 21, 2010 Rating: 3

any chance of a photo ID for thos big brazilian butts there spongerdudette?

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Cold Water Surfer Sep 18, 2010 Rating: 2

Trouble is though, once they've been given a couple of 1s for whatever reason, not enough people get to see these great shots to give them the votes they deserve. It only takes two of the first five votes to be 1s for the average to be 3.4 - shot never gets seen again!

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Spongerdudette Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 1

Exactly Coelocanth. When the shots has been given a +1 and then only one or two others bother to vote, some great photos hardly ever get seen and then ''disappear'', let alone get onto front page. So basically it's down to the users of this site to use the voting facility which has been given to us so that a variation of photos are seen on front page.

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Coelacanth Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 2

For what it's worth...after a quick and dirty sampling of maybe 10-15 pics...some front page and some on favorites lists...only about ONE PERCENT(1 out of 100)of pic VIEWERS actually VOTE on a pic. Many times it's less than that.

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Coelacanth Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 0

Good points dudette. And valuable observations on the Cornish break pics/votes. I didn't mean to suggest the idea of the 'best' voter winning the prize(ie. the one who votes MORE than anyone else). I'm just trying to get MORE SeaWeeders to actually vote on pics by giving them an incentive to reach a certain MINIMUM TOTAL NUMBER(ie. threshold) of pic votes. THEN they'd qualify for a RANDOM drawing for a prize(s). No matter how they actually vote. Voting all 3's on all pics, regardless of quality, just to qualify for the drawing is somehow less malicious(and thus allowable)than voting all 1's on all(or most) pics. A certain number of 1 votes should just disqualify the voter from the RANDOM drawing.

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Spongerdudette Sep 17, 2010 Rating: -1

I don't think that the +1 voters are always necessarily trying to make it so their own photo's get seen/rated and not other photographers, for other reasons. Take yesterday for example, whilst going through the newly uploaded photos on ''browse'', every single shot for a certain Cornish break (all by the same photographer) was voted just +1. I thought that maybe the voter had something bad against the photo's owner, until I carried on going thru all of the shots taken by the person. Photos that had been uploaded on the same day, by the same photographer but at a different place was left either unrated or given a higer vote. So I think that some (not all) of the +1 voters are trying to make sure that their local break doesn't get onto the front page incase people decide to visit it. It would appear that there is at least 3 reasons as to why people are doing this.....They think it's fun!!!!.....Jealous of another photographer who might be better then them.....They want THEIR photo on front page......or people don't want their ''local'' known. I really don't think that Admin should ''award'' prizes for the ''best voter'', as users would vote +3's or above on all photos, regardless if they were awesome or just okay, plus a bit like being back at school. I still say that people should take the time and look at the photos on ''browse'', and rate it honestly as to what they think...this is the only way to beat the +1 voters.

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Coelacanth Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 1

Ooooooh...Perfect prize/pic voting motivator AND MSW advert/revenue enhancer...A Go-Pro camera!...Everybody wins!

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Coelacanth Sep 17, 2010 Rating: -1

Ben's explanation makes things clearer for me now. Thanks Ben. Jacatero also pointed out how more voting/numbers of votes on all pics, good or not so good, minimizes the ability of an ever present group of spitefully motivated voters(pro photogs?...say it ain't so!), who ALWAYS vote 1's(to give their own pics a better chance at front page status!), to skew the voting and keep many good pics off the front page. Good pics usually get lots of views...but relatively few votes...Not many of us are that motivated to ACTUALLY vote...unless there are some bodacious female charms to stare at/drool over. Or unless it's an exceptionally good and/or unique surf pic. Maybe more voting on ALL pics could be encouraged by that old reliable motivator of human behavior...self-interest! Have a random drawing for (a) prize(s); wetsuit, surfboard, sponge(eewwww), whatever...for weeders who cast a certain threshold number of votes on pics(on the browse/new pics page maybe?)within a certain time frame...and make sure they're NOT all 1 votes either.

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Spongerdudette Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 0

I agree Ben. Some great shots have been missed because a lot of people seem to only look at the front page shots and not look at the newly uploaded ones on ''browse''. A classic example is the shot of that photo of the Brazillian girls with ahem ''big butts''. That shot was given a lot of +1's but it still managed to stay as top rated photo for the duration as other users outweighed the +1's by voting +5. So basically, the way of beating the +1 voters is already in place. It just means that people have to look and vote on photos other then on the front page. If you don't do it, you can't complain about it.

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Ben Freeston Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 1

Clive we tried it and it just doesn't work - the system needs thousands of votes a day to have a chance of giving fair representation to a photo - as galling and inexplicable as the negative votes on great photos might be they're not stopping the overwhelmingly sensible voting from ensuring the right pics rise to the top - without them photos can be uploaded and sink from sight before they have had a chance of making the front page.

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soutie Sep 16, 2010 Rating: 2

no shit shorey

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Cold Water Surfer Sep 16, 2010 Rating: 2

Is that Soutie's pic or this one?

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Shorey Sep 16, 2010 Rating: 3

I voted it one Soutie, cos it was shite

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Kaptain Kook Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 3

i travelled on Intergritty once, It was late.

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Get Joggly Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 0

Blame my online thesaurus and spell check for that on. Suppose i should find out what it means too.

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tjo Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 3

I thought the multiple pics of the same non-surfing bimbos on home page was the slap in the face of integrity, not soutie and his make-up fetish, actually I didn't realize integrity had anything to do with this site, or surfing...

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Get Joggly Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 3

The one with the AK47 totting cracked out child soldiers outside the booths ? Ps Thanks for reminding me soutie ..... And big negatives to cheap slap stick humor paint shop pics that are a pie in the face to the integrity of this site !

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Get Joggly Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 0

Thanks for reminding me soutie ..... And big negatives to cheap slap stick humor paint shop pics that are a pie in the face to the integrity of this site !

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soutie Sep 15, 2010 Rating: 2

which African country was it where most people put crosses on the ballot next to the candidates they didnt want

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Get Joggly Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 4

Have you considered this is an international site , maybe voting system gets lost in translation ie This pic is number 1 or gets 1st place etc. Also I personally can't stand blatant water marks across a shot, they get a low score from me. Thanks

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Get Joggly Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 0

Have you considered this is an international site , maybe voting system gets lost in translation ie This pic is number 1 or gets 1st place etc. Also I personally can't stand blatant water marks across a shot, they get a low scores from me. Thanks

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Clive Symm Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 0

Nice idea with the tally but I'd just like to see who voted for what and why they gave a 1 to a perfectly good photo. It might help improve the quality of what's posted on here.

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Coelacanth Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 3

I think you're onto something there Clive! If there was some time interval during which a certain cumulative threshold number of 1 votes(and 2's, 3's, etc.?...tmi?) was reached...and it was tallied at the bottom of a profile page along with the rest where MSW admin. could see it readily...that might curb the chronic pic voting abuse a bit. I'd like to see something similar to weed out the troll(s) behind the mass negging of comments that has been going on (again?) recently.

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Clive Symm Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 6

Thanks H, I'm getting used to it now. I just wish MSW would make us log in before we vote and then list our votes, the same way as they do our comments, on our profile pages. Would be interesting to see how long the 1s lasted after that.

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chineseyes....(who you calling a muppet!!!) Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 6

g....i....v.....e....i.....t.....a.........5...................+ does anybody want a ticket for brittany ferry cruise?? I seemed to have 3???????

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soutie Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 2

yip, strange. take my pic for example. http://magicseaweed.com/photoLab/viewPhoto.php?photoId=181415 . . . 14 votes, 10 5's and 4 1's. brilliant pic as well. crisp colours. amazing glassy wave, yet 4 people think it is worth 1. not 3, or 2 mind you, but 1. 1 out of 5. probably would have voted it zero if they could have. i thought it may be msw staff, because it lowers the tone of the site. who knows ? check it out and vote what you think it deserves. i gave yours a 5.

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Kieran_88 Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 1

What camera did you take this with if you don't mind?

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chineseyes....(who you calling a muppet!!!) Sep 17, 2010 Rating: 2

I dunno 'bout tha' soutie I tried for ages and just kept missing it......

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soutie Sep 16, 2010 Rating: 1

just goes to show, anyone can push a button.

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Clive Symm Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 1

Couldn't be bothered to carry my heavy pro kit up the cliff so I only had my little Canon G11 compact on me when this little beauty rumbled through.

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Cold Water Surfer Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 1

If that's where I think it is that wave must be massive!!! Top quality shot, love it.

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Clive Symm Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 0

This wave is about half a mile away from where I took the shot from and it must have been 10ft plus.

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Spongerdudette Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 0

Great shot, nice crisp colours +5.

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Spongerdudette Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 1

Mmmm and tasty they were too ;0

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Spongerdudette Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 0

Oooh what....thought it tasted weird!

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I love beef curtains me !! Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 1

haha soutie very good

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soutie Sep 14, 2010 Rating: 4

you've been eating strange crisps

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