Clive Symm's photo of Widemouth Bay

Curly Bennet looking like he's dropping in on another local boy when in fact he's been called into the wave (didn't know this until a few days after I'd posted it here). Hope that clears things up for a certain user...

Average rating of 4.41 from 61 votes

Widemouth Bay

Spot Location: UK + Ireland > England > Widemouth Bay

Date Taken: 20th April 2011. 17094 page views since 21st April 2011.

Swell Rating Primary Swell Secondary Swell Wind (+ Gusts) Weather
1.7ft 11s 278.71° 1ft 13s   9 13 mph Clear 55°f
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surfingimage Sep 8, 2011 Rating: 0

Another great shot Clive 5

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denzil May 1, 2011 Rating: 1

great work clive,joss and karl,give em enough rope.....

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budesurf Apr 30, 2011 Rating: -6

You're all a bunch of homos!!

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tjo Apr 29, 2011 Rating: 2

"here's curly, looking like he shit in his suit, when in fact he didnt shit in his suit, he's just a big boy, and theres joss, looking like he's trying out for dancing with the stars, when actually he's not trying out for anything, he's just doing a surfing aerial maneuver"

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sprayNsurf Apr 28, 2011 Rating: -1

when chuck norris has something in the way, he doesn't go around, he FLIES!!!!!!

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The Kookoo Jun 25, 2011 Rating: 0

love the response ;)

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markdbn Apr 28, 2011 Rating: 4


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user74234 Apr 27, 2011 Rating: 7

they both know each other and both respect each others ability. Karl had called Joss into a wave he was not going to get a couple of sets before, Joss returned favour on this wave by calling Karl into this one, then decided to boost one off the section, thats the problem with surf photographers, they cause some shit by titling it "drop in" without knowing whats going on in the water.

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lazerbullet Jun 5, 2011 Rating: 0

its the best thing in the world ever...until some fat twunt starts hurling abuse and being nasty at you when your just trying to have a chilled surf with your bro!

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Coelacanth Apr 28, 2011 Rating: -1

Is MSW selling peanuts now?...I want some!...Where do I click?...The Seinfeld stuff never gets old tjo. Love it!...Use some more.

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tjo Apr 28, 2011 Rating: 1

"the problem is" everyones always looking for a problem when there isnt one. the title is fine, call it 2 mates sharing a wave, and you'll get a bunch of gay jokes instead, not that there's anything wrong with that! this comment board is little more then a place for the "peanut gallery" to exist, so pass the peanuts and lets see the next photo!

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the vanity project Apr 28, 2011 Rating: 0

Doesn’t matter what the title says. Instead of blaming the photographer, if you had actually used that time to look at the photo properly you will realise Airboy is actually a safe distance from the big fella. From the overall look of the photo I’m guessing Clive shot this with a telephoto lens, at least a 200mm, probably more, and it has the effect of compressing objects closer together like an optical illusion. If you actually look at the section his board leaves the water and follow that across to where the big man’s wake is at the top of the wave, in reality that’s at least 2 metres. It might not look it, as you are most likely distracted from venting your bile or finishing your school homework, but it probably is. Also factor in that the big guy is now going down the wave and away from airboy while gaining speed and you can surmise that getting a fin in the head was never a danger. Its not film, its a photo, you don’t get to see what happened before or after unless you see the sequence. You don’t get to know what arrangement the two surfers had leading up to that shot or if chubby did blatantly drop in unless they post themselves. But it doesn’t mean you can’t work out what was physically happening if you read the image correctly. My guess is like the guy said below, Joss is making the most of the wave he has left after conceding it. Title or no title, drop in or not, there is no danger there. My only real concern here is airboys left arm and big boys arteries. PS Clive, next time upload your ‘drop in’ titles using the sarcasm font.

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user74234 Apr 28, 2011 Rating: 1

the photo wasn,t the problem , the title "dropping in" was the problem, read the posts below.....if it was titled "2 mates sharing a wave," do you think there would be so many abusive comments?

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Dan Byrne Apr 27, 2011 Rating: 1

I argee. Some of the other comments are totally ageist and surf-nazisish.You can offer some angst ideas (comments) but old guys have many happy waves before you. Try to enjoy surfing,it's great for everyone.

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Coelacanth Apr 27, 2011 Rating: -1

Clive...is the guy boosting air the UK pro surfer Joss Ash...Reubyn Ash's brother?...They are both world class talent...and I'm sure we'll see a lot more of them in world pro surfing competitions soon. Re: my 'American photog' remark...I was just havin' a little fun with User's anti-American dig below.

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Cold Water Surfer Apr 27, 2011 Rating: -1

"the problem with surf photographers..." what are you on User#%^*? If it wasn't for quality surf photographers giving their work for free this site wouldn't be worth looking at and you'd have nothing to winge about. It's all about what happens in that 1000th of a second, nothing else matters as far as a good photo is concerned, and this is a cracking photo!

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Clive Symm Apr 27, 2011 Rating: 1

I know them both well and have to say that Joss did call Curly into this one, but can you blame me for posting this...

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Coelacanth Apr 27, 2011 Rating: 0

Thanks for that background info User 74234. Gave you a +1 for trying to undo some preconceptions & misunderstandings. I'm just glad it wasn't an American photog taking this pic!!!=^0

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THE GROM Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 1


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tjo Apr 29, 2011 Rating: 1

Lol you got me there coelio!

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Coelacanth Apr 29, 2011 Rating: 0

No it's not!!!

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tjo Apr 29, 2011 Rating: 2

this may be the most ridiculous argument, or reason to argue, i've seen on msw. poor clive has to leave a damn half a paragraph of disclaimer just to show the shot?

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Cold Water Surfer Apr 29, 2011 Rating: 0

Looking at the comments posted here, it looks to me like "Curly" is well known for being abusive and a drop in specialist. Clive knows him and therefore knows his reputation... On this occasion he didn't drop in and Clive has re-done the title to show this. I'm sure Curly has been peeing himself over the fuss this has caused (if he's not user bollocky boo that is). How may photos are there on here of what looks like the perfect wave when half a second later it closes out, or someone doing what looks like the most insane move when they're in fact wiping out. It's all in the instant and in this instant this looks like a drop in.

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user74234 Apr 29, 2011 Rating: -2

Good luck on your next surf with Karl Clive.

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Clive Symm Apr 29, 2011 Rating: 0

Or maybe I didn't check these hallowed pages for few days due to getting ready for a foreign trip and didn't know that Joss had called Curly into it until I saw him a few days later when we were going through some other shots from the session. I did have a good giggle when I saw the comments though! FYI none of my shots would be on here with comments enabled if I wasn't up for a bit of criticism... Would it make you feel better if I took the nasty title away?

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Cold Water Surfer Apr 28, 2011 Rating: 0

User74234, I have to ask. If you had taken this photo what would you have put as the caption? If if was left blank the coments, except yours, would be identical. No matter what the circumstances it looks like a drop in to any and all who look at it. If it was Clives intention to invite comments on this image then I have to say "Job well done sir!". The "title" is irrelevant as the image speaks for itself. Maybe next time you should leave the caption blank Mr Symm, it would save certain people a lot of angst...

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user74234 Apr 28, 2011 Rating: 0

vanity project, if you,d actually used your time reading Clives own statement above then you wouldn,t have to write such a useless essay.Great pic, no doubt, my point is why did Clive put "dropping in" in the title when he himself writes "Joss called Curly into this one" only Clive can put that right but didn,t for days, he sat back and watched abuse fly back and forth giggling in his chair.until he was criticised himself, only then do we hear from him that what we are seeing along with the statement is misleading.he put it up to cause a shitfight, nothing more.

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Younes Apr 27, 2011 Rating: 0

Fooked him up he did

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THE GROM Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 0

http://www.zapiks.fr/respecte-mon-take-off.html looks like similar circumstances

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lebreton Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 0

Young brucelee looks like hard work and old guy just enjoys...

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KeithMan Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 6

respect to that Curly dude, them young cunts are way too wave greedy

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Jon_ley Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 1

If I don't get dropped in on at least 5 times during a session down widemouth I don't consider it a good days work..... Times that by about 10 during the Summer.

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Jon_ley Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 0

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Mic J Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 2

Ya, but the kid fell and the old fat bearded dude with the short fricken sleeves kept riding.

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The Man With No Name Apr 25, 2011 Rating: 4

This is why the older generation shouldn't drive, when he looked right it was clear

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tjo Apr 25, 2011 Rating: 6

the evolution of the surfer... start out young and fit, boosting air, end up old, hairy and fat, just cruising

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tjo Apr 26, 2011 Rating: 2

yeah, they'd need to take themselves a lot less seriously for that

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user74234 Apr 25, 2011 Rating: -4

thank fuk he can,t turn American!

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user74234 Apr 25, 2011 Rating: 1

photo shopped!! karl never drops in......

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BuzyG Apr 25, 2011 Rating: 0

Err think he does. Cut me up a few times, LoL. Comedy pic. Kurly your a star.

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Stranded In Taiwan Apr 25, 2011 Rating: 4

Anyone able to sport a short sleeve in that water has priority... PERIOD.

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Jack Glick Apr 26, 2011 Rating: -3

he's fat...all the blubber he needs to stay warm are in those bare arms

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nomadic matt Apr 25, 2011 Rating: 1

HAHAHA Sneaky! Brian Blessed! LMFAO!!

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Get Joggly Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 0

Cheap trick ,he wont land it , A Wave should never be wasted.

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Scott Apr 24, 2011 Rating: -1

and this is why the older generation are scared of youths...

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FREAKYstyley316 Apr 24, 2011 Rating: -7


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Mikepike Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 0

Great shot Clive... Love it... Have you shown it to Kurly yet...lol! Glad I was further up the coast that day...lmfao!!!

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DoAPooAndGambole Apr 24, 2011 Rating: -1

hate it when old people drop in, can't call them a little shit

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Bit Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 2

hmm, thought i might go for a quick sesh at widmouth today now Ive seen this fat dude id rather surf somewhere else.

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Carcharias Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 6

The blubber works. Short sleeves in 11 degree water. Where there is no sense there is no feeling.

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doobie mcshitlips Apr 24, 2011 Rating: -4

time to die three fins to the back full on gashes blood everywhere punching broken teeth anarchy no rules screw you chaos and massive death

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lazerbullet Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 11

are you a death metal fan? if not you should be. cool lyrics!

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Jack Glick Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 1

the other guy looks like Dane Reynolds...

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lazerbullet Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 14

i wonder if the bearded dude remembers the time when he was abusive and threatened my brother after he accidentally dropped in on him. how ironic.

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lazerbullet Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 2

amen to that.

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samtan Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 7

He looks like the sort of fat prick that every surf spot has to put up with. "I've been surfing here X years, therefore I'll have every wave I want but if you drop in on me expect some shit." Well guess what fat prick; you look like a proper twat now.

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surfjat15 Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 1

best of both worlds

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Sebs:PERU.&.33.40.64 Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 0

Free willy!!!

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Matt Wright Apr 24, 2011 Rating: 2

please say it one more time

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Sebs:PERU.&.33.40.64 Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 0

Free willy!!!

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Sebs:PERU.&.33.40.64 Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 0

Free willy!!!

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Sneakybadger Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 4


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Stevierocks Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 8

The old man is so in the wrong...but the young dude acting like bruce lee is an asshole.I have seen the damage a board can do to someones face and gunning for someone does not prove anything. The wave is not good enough to justify the posibble injury to the old fart. Age before beauty.A solid bottom turn would have got him around santa!

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sdfjkljklsh Apr 27, 2011 Rating: 3

I disagree. I think the air is a sign of respect. He is conceding the wave to the older local, while making the most of the situation by boosting an air over the drop-in section. Sometimes thats all you can do when a salty old local drops in on you.

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lebreton Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 0

looks like the challange turtle vs rabbit...

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Cold Water Surfer Apr 23, 2011 Rating: 0

Summer's here! Drop ins are on, in his head at least...