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Surfing The Pier. It's getting crazy out there, this could be somebodies head next!

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Bournemouth

Spot Location: UK + Ireland > England > Bournemouth

Date Taken: 27th November 2011. 5477 page views since 28th November 2011.

Swell Rating Primary Swell Secondary Swell Wind (+ Gusts) Weather
5ft 7s 261.16°     22 26 mph Brief Showers 54°f
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Sunspot Dec 4, 2011 Rating: 0

bummer, sounds like things have changed a bit in the last year or so, but it was always mayhem on a decent day at the pier. as you say, could be worse next time. i have a bodyboarding nephew who got the nose of a board in the head, partial paralysis of his left left leg as a result of brain damage. i think a sign with 'surf etiquete' would be a good start, but maybe surf shops should issue a standard leaflet with basic etiquette pointers with every sale, be it wax or a board.

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dropknee 1234 Dec 4, 2011 Rating: 0

surfed the pier at the weekend .The surfer in question sat right inside the take off point,almost taking the shore dump .It was only a matter of time with the amount of people out that he was going to be caught.I am sure whoever hit his board has been in touch.

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Gazza42 Dec 4, 2011 Rating: 0

Wessex Surf Club is finally getting its act together after a very dormant few years for a proper new beginning to help the wider local surf community come together. We have a new temporary committee in place consisting of myself, Andy YDNA (Social Secretary) & Ben Mathews (Club Secretary). There will be an open meeting / social on Weds 11th Jan (venue tbc) to explain our plans / vision and hear your thoughts on the clubs future, followed by an AGM on Weds 1st Feb. We will let you know further details in early Jan. We want you to have your say and help influence the future of local surfing. Hope to see you on the 11th - Gaz (Gary Elford) Chairman Wessex Surf Club Remember. Email Me Your Contact Details if interested (gary@elfords.com) - Sweet

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Draper Dec 16, 2011 Rating: 0

Yeah baby!!! Can we keep real surfers running the show this time and not over opinionated non surfers who think they know all about surfing!!!

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Gazza42 Dec 4, 2011 Rating: 1

Wessex Surf Club is finally getting its act together after a very dormant few years for a proper new beginning to help the wider local surf community come together, we have a new committee in place consisting of myself, Andy (YDNA) & Ben Mathews. We are holding an open meeting/social on Weds 11th Jan (venue tbc) to explain our plans/vision followed by an AGM on Weds 1st Feb. We will let you know further details in early Jan. Send your email/mobile to my email (gary@elfords.com) in the first instance to be included in any future communication as I won`t be using this article to discuss club issues anymore. The very serious/complex issue being discussed here are just one of the things the club will be looking at to try and address in the future, if you want to have your say and help influence the future of local surfing you owe it to yourself and everyone to at least come to the first meeting and hopefully join the club once you have heard what we have to say. Hope to see you on the 11th - Gaz(Gary Elford) Chairman Wessex Surf Club Remember Email Me Your Details if interested - Sweet

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tj1958 Dec 4, 2011 Rating: 0

Gotta love Bournemouth Pier

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tj1958 Dec 4, 2011 Rating: -1

Jeesh still the agro here, "they've been surfing 30 years still no better thsn the day they started" Bournemouth Pier is the last place to surf seriously. Any real wave rider would know that, the most un-humble and untravelled idiots you will ever come across, the worst wave in the world. Well known for being the KOOK haven of the UK, Middle aged amatuers act like they are "DA HUI" It's just... embarrassing Seriously guys let them have it to themselves

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tj1958 Dec 3, 2011 Rating: 0

Still the localism, middle aged amatuers fighting over 2ft mush. In my opinion it's because most of them rarely, if ever have experienced real waves. Never leaving Dorset tho think they are "da hui" Living in a bubble if you like. The most insecure and un-humble people you will come across. Bournemouth Pier on the map for being a kook haven. "Old boy locals scrap over crappy weak waves, act like it's the north shore, have surfed for 25 years plus and still no better than the day they started" Don't get me wrong there are some down to earth guys who surf there, it's the same group of idiots that spoil it. It's just ...embarrassing

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tj1958 Dec 3, 2011 Rating: 0

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flab777 Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 1

I agree with the whole 'localism' thing. I am 16 and have been surfing b'mout and boscombe for about 4 years and i bearly go any more. I have a lot of respect for the older guys and some other locals but the ones that do my head in are the ones that don't give a damn about anyone else. At the end of the day 9/10 people go to have fun but our fun is ruined by the small minority who effectively don't know how to surf by not knowing the etiquette.

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DanSS Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 0

This is an issue that i feel really strongly about- the pier has been my local spot for years, and in that time i have seen the attitudes, and atmosphere progressively deteriorate. All ettiquette seems to have gone out the window, and its getting dangerous. I had fins in the back of my head the other weekend, which shouldnt have happened, but the guy was adamant he was going to drop in on me! Then squared up to me afterwards for good measure. I hate localism, but with the way the scene is progressing here, i'm starting to understand why it occurs, and unfortunately this is being compounded by the same small number of guys whose attitudes suck! Generally the core local crew, (of which we all know who each other are)are a great, easy going bunch. However, patience is rapidly wearing thin. I for one, am getting fed up of feeling agravated/aggressive when i leave the water, especially on a sunday afternoon sesh! If you're not from here, then come down and get in the water, but please make sure you understand the "rules of the road". If you are from here and your one of the guys with the sh*t attitudes.. then bugger off 'cos you're no longer welcome!!

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Maui-wowi Wilko Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

Thats spesh mate! just taken two inches off my rocketship and put in a swift tail wher there used to be a pin. Should keep me on my toes, the F-U-N you can have with a polyboard, dewalt jigsaw and some quick cure ding repair. See ya tmoro arvo for a surf off!!

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GKUK Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 2

I did have Great fun too! on the Acre, Just remember...... MORE FOAM=MORE FUN!!

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Maui-wowi Wilko Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 1

howdy Gaz man. sorry to hear bout the g-unit tag. May i suggest dusting off the ol` "knight rider" name for a bit... ahem! Just felt compelled to punch in my view from afar. `That Sunday` after a tussle with the wife and conscience of going crimbo shopping for little nipper, i wound up down the road at the ledge. Overcome with elation that i had made the effort(again) and was greeted with shoulder high fun peeks here and there and just 6 or so fellas of various standards, just TAKING TURNS! On route i checked Bosvegas and concluded although it was obviously primo beachies for both piers, common sense prevailed so I carried on my quest for tranquility. All time it wasnt, by our standards but there was no stress and anxiety. unlike the last time I paddled in from a sesh at bomo, stressed upto the eyeballs and wanting to twat anyone/thing in the way. Im no saint but i know how it works so lighten up everyone. Give somebody you dont know a wave next time the wave magnet is round your neck. PS. Senior papajo have you been watching riding giants!!! PPS. Are you chicken jo`s papa from surfs up, just so i know who to look for if i find your board bobbing up the beach x)

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papajoe Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

Good to hear robbo, Still think that "the Drill" is the best name for Mr Knights due to his longboard size schlong : ) Cheers PJ

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bigad Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

It was nuts out there at the weekend, shame as there were some fun waves. Its clear there is a issue. It seems most people that surf bournemouth/boscombe use this site to check the conditions. Be it learners, longboarders, old and young, good or bad. My tinking is, would it be possible for someone with the knowledge(as im no computer wizzard) to put a poster of the rules and etiquette of surfing on the report/condition pages for bournemouth area for those who dont know? It wouldnt do any harm i guess, they may take notice they may not. Anyway I blame kelly slater for the boom in surfings popularity!

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papajoe Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

I don't know what everyone's complaining about, I had a blast last Sunday and loads of set waves as well, trick is to ride a beat up old board and don't bother with a leash. People soon get out your way. Crowds were crazy though.

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Draper Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 1

How about a Facebook page called Pier Pressure. We could all join that, which can be set up and ran by the gorgeous Bench Lord? On there awareness, beach safety and all other related issues/educational promotions can be promoted with real locals having a say, making friends and helping each other, prevention not cure :) ABBA awereness too and local surf shops. A name and shame of the week voted by group members\friends? I got out in the end Sunday, it was the only sane and safe thing to do!!!!

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Draper Dec 16, 2011 Rating: 1

Thanks Jess aka GK, give my love to Gazza :)

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Draper Dec 16, 2011 Rating: 0

Cheers Jess. Give my love to Gazza!

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kookenator2 Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

i am up for properly calling out bad behaviour "oi mate, pack it in". you will never stop people paddling as it's such a weak wave and compressed people will always think they have a shot (me included) - we just need to stop them then making a concious decision to go. it's not a new problem and it's been solved in loads of ways around the world - pipe with a intimidation. puerto escondido with a few locals being vocal. j bay with the rash vest lot. white shorts etc. we dont need that we just need to stop accepting it - get off our arses and sort it. anyone gerts angry they can deal with the line up. i also think it will get a degree of reputation of "localism" which is fine by me as most localised breaks i've surfed are fine if you are not a moron. i think we should ask sorted to put it on their facebook page? we don't need a blog - we have facebook.

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GKUK Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

Hi Carl, it wouldn't work, surfing is down to individuals,The hassle last weekend wasn't down to beginners or non "locals", just selfishness, if you formed a group like this it wouldn't work, There isn't any localism in Bournemouth as with other surf spots, a lot of people don't see eye to eye and as for people policing the line up in anyway, that would start so much shit,it would probably do the opposite in what you were trying to achieve? The Wessex surf club meetings were a prime example of the "differences" in the area within a relatively small surf community, even something positive like that couldn't be sorted out, I think its down to individuals to behave and if needed educate others, I myself got pretty pissed of last week in the surf and Ejected one of the two surfers that dropped in on me!, it wasn't until i had done this that i realised there was someone behind me too!! they could surf and no doubt new they shouldn't have dropped in, They did know they were doing it as i called them, PS sorry to the guy i did it to! I really don't think its going to get any better! its a shame really as it can be a really fun wave. I also don't think signs would do anything in the way of the hassle/drop-ins either although if the council decided to put them up it may help beginners from getting into trouble, so would be good for that. Hope the surf isn't quite as hectic as that in the future! Cheers Gaza

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bench-lord Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 2

I think the ettiquete signs are a must!and a good start,i think also on the bigger days jumping off the pier for novices is a must not!,the trouble that causes is an accident waiting to happen,perhaps we all need to not jump off the pier and paddle out{if you can}.The surf shops also need to step up and educate their customers of the dangers as well as the ettiquete as some people really dont know the drop in rule,and are genuinely surprised when given a bollocking? I dont see any problem with pro-active localism in the form of education and advice,do you? as opposed to the fuck off my spot localism? A lot of the locals are now parents and need to take care out there,when non educated surfers launch boards at their heads for instance!! So i think it will change a bit this winter to weed out the dangerous people{the self presevation society}in the line-up, you dont need to shout at people,just explain the facts politely? its everybodies responsability?. vince-noir says people act like its pipeline,it aint pipe,but when its all you got to surf you want it to be safe and fun.incidentely pipe is to the west with no crowds and its called supers.

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SurfingChimp Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 1

Have you ever surfed Bells Beach Australia and the whole Torquay region? They have boards in place around the surf spot titled "Tribal Law". It states who has right of way in a wave with diagrams where and which way you should go. Especially for people paddling out. Pisses me off when so me kook wants to paddle back out over the clean part of the wave I am about to surf. Get behind me mother fucker!

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GKUK Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

Bournemouth was a night-mare last weekend, In the end if you wanted waves you had to hassle, I watched before i went in and it was utter madness! really bad attitudes in there too (as per usual) It was like a contest but with about 20plus people! Bournemouth is always dangerous and not a fun place to surf anymore, Some of the guys complaining hassling last weekend are the worst too,I think if you really have a strong opinion on this matter dont hide behind weird and wonderfull names, put your name down or dont comment at all. Gary Knights, ps G-Unit has nicked my Nic name!!

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SurfingChimp Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 1

I generally stopped surfing B'Mouth about 6 years ago for this same reason. Boscombe only for me. (Although I did surf B'Mouth 3 weeks ago for the first time in a long time. It was mid week and uncrowded) Also, I won't surf Kimmeridge any more on a weekend. I'd rather drive an extra 2 hours further west

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Jamessurfphoto Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

Ok, so it seems like we are generally aligned. What is our plan here ?

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Jamessurfphoto Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 2

What about approaching the council to put up some of those "surf etiquette" signs by the paddle out on each side of the pier. I think the only way to effectively tackle this (apart from some "local" surf police that will only encite fights) is for people to be educated on the rules of the road. They have these signs designed already and would just be a hundred quid or so to stick them up. It wont fix the problem, but be a good start for little cost / effort....?

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Vince Noir Nov 30, 2011 Rating: -2

Main issues at bournemouth : - small take off, shit waves, meaning everyone gets out back - half the people have no idea of etiquette - half the "locals" act like its fucking pipeline - you look like a tool when you start shouting at drop ins or people sat in the way. I mean, c'mon, calling someone out cos they dropped in on your 2ft closeout ??? has to be done, as people need putting in line at bournemouth big time, but its just ridiculous at the same time

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Vince Noir Nov 30, 2011 Rating: -2

if you actually bothered to read my comment properly you'd see i have agreed with all of what you just said..... i behave better than most of those that surf the peirs. i don't drop in. i don't get in peoples way. But i get just as pissed off as you when i get dropped in on at the peir. i could care less how crap the wave is if you have priority, its your wave. at bournemouth its a particular problem, almost a joke, as even if you are closest to the peak (which half of the surfers are not good enough to recognise), 15 people down the line/on the shoulder ALL paddle for it as well and about 8 of them end up taking off. try pulling this shit elsewhere and you'd be hounded out the water. it amazes me that this seems to be a bournemouth only problem. i have surfed croyde with 250+ in the summer, i have surfed it with 60-70 locals on a macking winter , i have surfed a (supposedly) highly localised right point in lanzo with 50+ in the water, and yet it is bournemouth where i have been dropped in on the most what also pisses me off is one or two locals/regulars to the piers, that take every wave and feel that it is they're right to do so because they surf better than 99% of the crowd

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slidingaround Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 2

Its that kind of attitude that makes bournemouth a knightmare to surf. Go anywhere in the world and you WILL have locals shouting at people dropping in or getting in the way. "Its only Bournemouth" IS'NT an excuse! Its dangerous out there because of those drop-ins and people to lazy to get out the f'ing way! There is no respect out there now from new comers. Years ago we ALL respected the older crew and the locals that have been surfing there for years. Just like any other place around the world. The respect has gone! I know its only bournemouth but thats not the point, we dont get waves that often and to be dropped in on or snaked by some kook just pi$$e$ me off! Most of us locals that surf here that get vocal in the line up have grown up with respect, surfed all over the world. Id love to see some of you act like you do at Bournemouth abroad. Just goes to show your lack of experience. This isnt all directed at you Vince, i dont know you, nut your comment sparked something inside me.

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JellyPhish Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 1

Apologies to the guy I nailed on my longboard, with people on the left and right my only option was to bail and grab the board before hitting him. Managed to get away with it, but it was utterly ridiculousness with the crowds.MSWers flocking to breaks on mass is a dangerous business.

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AlexJohnston Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

I know the whole increase in surfing's accessibility (part due to advances in meteorological and internet technologies) may have lead to overcrowded spots, and frustration to many, but it this kind of situation, or let's say competition, that forces us to venture down new roads (i.e. evolve). In this example, instead of nostalgically whining, we could load up a car or two and go find a new break. Let's look at the silver lining :)

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G Unit Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 0

Has anyone ever looked at the simple correlation that seems to exist between the creation of magic seaweed (and other related surf blog's / reports) and the increase in crowded UK breaks? The internet has been responsible for the growth of surfing over the last 5 years as well the downfall. The sport has been made more accessible. Long gone are the days that a surfer had to also be a weather man to predict local swells. Plus, any kook can now pop into their local surf shop and get 'sorted' out with a lesson, an NSP and some cheap clearance deal on a wetsuit! Ben, it's kind of ironic that you may moan about the crowds and the dangers presented. Yet you will report daily on the surf through a blog (which will only encourage more people to come and surf said spot). Just a thought? Basically there is no answer to this problem. If you want to surf then you have to just deal with it, crowds, idiots and fishermen...... Just don't bring that £500 board out if you dont want a dent in it!!

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G Unit Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 0

Fair play!

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Ed Magicseaweed Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 1

Have you looked at the new forecast pages? The Med models we and only we run? The apps? The social elements. That's all in the last 6 months. Some of the forecast stuff a little way down the pipeline will pop your mind. We are getting our surfing in faces of the rest of the world, we're a world-leading Brit tech company at a time of economic crisis providing more industry jobs than you can imagine. How much do you think it costs to keep it free? How do you think we pay all these salaries? How much does delivering charts, model runs, video, photo views, iPhone apps and editorial to 1.5 million surfers for nothing cost? What I can tell you is that there are no rich people here and the only T4s are driven by the sales reps.

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Ed Magicseaweed Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 0

How much do you think it costs to keep it all free? How much does delivering charts, model runs, video, photo views, iPhone apps and editorial to 1.5 million surfers for nothing cost? What I can tell you is that there are no rich people here and the only T4s are driven by the sales reps.

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Ed Magicseaweed Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 0

How much do you think it costs to keep it all free? How much do you take that it will always be free for granted?

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G Unit Dec 1, 2011 Rating: 0

I know its been around for more than a decade, the first 5 years or so it was a dedicated surf forecast website. The last 5 years a dedicated surf shop. How much resource now actually goes into forecasting as opposed to the retail element of the site?

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russbooger Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

fair point mate, though I'm talking more than 15 years ago in the days of the infamous 'theres no hurricane' Micheal Fish!

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Ed Magicseaweed Nov 30, 2011 Rating: 0

MSW has been around for more than a decade and the internet's been pretty prevalent since 1995 so think back a lot longer than five years.

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russbooger Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 1

spot on mate, we raised this today as well - do you recall looking for 'dartboard' low pressures on Countryfile years ago before computer generated forecasts and hour by hour wave buoy data came along?? Now wave info is at everyones fingertips, you can check what the surfs doing by checking a webcam. The Croyde locals went nuts when someone set the first cam overlooking the bay some years back - it doubled the number of people in the water oveernight, remember the 'ban the cam' campaign?

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bensurfblog Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 1

I'm digging these rants... Get it off your chest... let it all out.... and breath..:-).....

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russbooger Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 1

Yup, feel better now!

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Tony two tribes Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 2

seen a fin cut a guys foot tendon in half and a SUP take a fin in the head that paralysed him. I wear a gath nowadays.Heres a thought, how many of these nutters have 3rd party insurance for surfing. I have, drop in on me and damage me and I am gonna sue your ass. Opps they probably haven't thought about that one. Not like it was even a decent wave to get that vibe going. never mind it will be freezing soon and a lot will vanish until the spring. Take care out there guys

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russbooger Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 8

Don't really comment that much on here, but as said by previous posts, it's getting really out of control at the pier. Sorry about the board , I watched the surf on Sunday and it was carnage - I've surfed the pier for over 20 years and mate it was that bad I didn't even bother going in. That hole in your board could have very easily been someones head, neck or chest. A few of us older locals were sat in the carpark today checking the surf, and were chatting as to why it was so bad - whilst watching the 4 clowns who clearly could not surf continually jumping off the pier as they could not paddle out or duckdive, then get in the way of the few guys out who could surf (when I was out earlier paddling up the channel next to the pier one these muppets nearly jumped on my back because he didn't look) .. Points raised included the fact that it was a sunday and the pier, apart from Boscombe, Highcliffe and maybe the Witterings, is the closest surfable peak for a radius of maybe 50 miles inland. Peaks at the pier are small and close togther, so everyone sits in the same spot The waves were in the 1-3ft range and clean, so easy to paddle out and catch. Boscombe and Bournemouth have been touted by the clowns in the Town Hall tourist department as a year round surf destination (it's all a bit quiet from them on the reef now) even though for most of the time its flatter than a witches tit Larger student population - many of whom already surf and this is now their only break without travelling Surfing is developing more popularity, leading to more beginners in the water Surf etiquette, including the drop-in and snake rule, seems to be dying a death not just at the pier, but everywhere The sun was out! We were all turning into middle aged moaners who complained about everything.. Joking aside, it's only going to get worse as the sport gets more popular. I call people off if they're paddling for the wave I'm on and some take real offence but its only because a. it seems people have, over the last 5 years, lost the ability to look left and right before taking off and b. I have no desire to have the nose, rail or fins of someones board punch a hole in my skull. I always wear a Gath in the winter now. I'll also have a talk with people if its a 'dangerous' drop-in - ie its close and someone could have got hurt, although this backfired on me when I challenged a non local last year about his constant drop ins on other surfers - all this joker wanted to do was fight me on the beach, and it was only when a few other people got on my side that he backed down. And then there's the fishermen, but don't get me started on them..

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The Rage Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 0

A couple of weeks ago I surfed the pier on a sunny Sunday - cleanish SE wind swell.. Punchy loads of fun - No crowds no kooks no log-boarders no boats - just a handful of surfers having a good surf.. I can't be bothered with this place on a SW swell

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user94532 Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 0

i hope thats the person that hit me in the head lol

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DGMUK Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 2

Pack up the van the night before, get up ridiculously early, drive to the North facing beaches for a weekend of proper winter surf.... Simples...... ain't nothing gonna change for the better round these parts....

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DGMUK Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 0

Pack up the van the night before, get up ridiculously early, drive to the North facing beaches for a weekend proper winter surf.... Simples...... ain't nothing gonna change for the better round these parts....

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kookenator2 Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 3

I surf there a lot. the problems are: - there's more and more people surfing. so there's more people in the water - mostly who are not that good. over the last 4 years it's got more and more - it's a very compacted break most of the time so it focuses the crowd massively - there's a crew who surf it all the time who will drop in on each other but its generally good natured and evens itself out over sessions. whilst not pros they are decent enough to be in control - however other people see this and think it's ok - there's an element of kooks who just go as they get frustrated as they get no waves - these to me are the really dangerous types. they are not in control. - there's a handful of locals (i think 3) who are decent and very aggressive to get waves - these need to be told by the rest of the locals that it's not ok. i do it. so what to do. call out the stupid behaviour and support each other when doing it. i love to surf but i don't want to go to hospital because of someone ego gets dinked so they act dumb. i can do that for myself. so call it out in the water.

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Tony two tribes Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 0

Gave up surfing there years ago and i am local, no point, mostly a bunch of kooks who think they can actually surf and get in the way of the few who can.

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bench-lord Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 2

Couldnt agree more Ben,someones gonna get badly hurt out there this winter.Sunday was the worst i've seen it in 40 years of surfing round here utter carnage!!.What can we do to sort it out?,i've tried for years to raise peoples awareness of this problem.We first need to identify in reality what is the main problem,that might sound obvious i know,and then do something posotive to change it once and for all!.It reminds me of Edwin Star's song "WAR" the line"freind only to the undertaker"! or in this case freind only to the DINGMAN!,for ding repairs contact Jeff @ southcoastcustomsurfboards.com

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jacksword1 Nov 29, 2011 Rating: 2

completely agree, no etiquette and too many egos..

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